Monday, November 23, 2009

Flip-Flops in the Snow

This has been one crazy mother of a weekend!

I had been mopping around the house, feeling sorry for myself... mostly because I got ANOTHER cold! Which reminds me to thank all those careless parents out there who take their kids to the store sick, send them to school with the swine flu, or drag them to church sneezing and coughing with green snot running down their little faces. News flash: It doesn't make you look strong, more spiritual, or dedicated to education or your own career to expose your sick child to the elements, other sicknesses when their immune system is down, and flat out unfair to expose other children and adults to it either! No, it makes you look like a complete self-centered idiot. Can you tell that is a major pet peeve of mine? Good grief!

While I was shopping the other day, my kids in the cart, with a girl friend of mine, a mom and her kid pulled up next to us. The kid was coughing uncontrollably all over us! The mom just acted like nothing happened. Even though I disinfected us all after, it was too late. ALL of us, even my friend woke up sick yesterday morning. Erk! Can you feel my frustration?!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE parents, keep your sick kids home!!! And yourself if you are sick too! No one wants your cooties!

I had my girlfriend come over and watch the boys this morning to I could venture out in the snow and cold to run to the store to stock up on cold meds, nasal sprays, and cough drops. As I was headed out, there was a lady in front of me that was a dead ringer for my friend that was supposedly watching my kids -- what the heck?! She was coughing and sneezing all over the place no mouth bothered to be covered... I knew it wasn't really my friend, and my suspensions were confered when I looked at her feet and she was wearing flip-flops on cold-red toes. Any wonder she's sick, huh? Anyway, I could never be friends with someone who wore flip flops in the snow... Common sense is important to me.


Practically Perfect... said...

I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here, and it may make me unpopular. I agree that sending your kids to school or going to church/running errands when they have the swine flu is irresponsible. However, sending them to school with a cold and no fever is understandable, especially when you consider that most moms work outside the home. I work in an emergency room, and while I don't have children, I can say that our absence policy is extremely strict: more than 2 absences in a 90-day period means you get written up, and 3 or more means disciplinary action. For a mom with little ones, staying home from work to keep them out of school each time they have a cold isn't practical or reasonable. And not everyone has friends or family that can come over to sit for them.

Again, I don't think that kids should be sent to school when they have a fever, are throwing up, or are really under the weather. If work gives you a hard time about it, then too bad for work. But sending a kid to school with a runny nose seems OK to me, so long as they don't have a fever, they understand good hygiene, and have a full pack of Kleenex in their pocket.

Practically Perfect... said...

I hope that wasn't offensive, and I apologize if it was. I just see and hear about the other side of things a lot while I'm at work.

Angela Speaker said...

Practically - I totally get where you're coming from. I'm a full-time working mom and it can be very difficult to take off when my daughter is sick. I save up my time the best I can so that when the cases of fever do strike, I can be home with my daughter...but that means sending her to school with the innocent, fever-free sniffles here and there.

But I understand what Cat's saying too...especially about the kids with gobs of green goo dripping all over their face. Parents, teach your kids about tissue and how to blow their nose!! Yuck!

Pam said...

I can definitely see both sides here. Sniffles is one thing, coughing and sneezing is something else. It's really not fair to infect everyone else (or to send a child to school who doesn't feel well). Practically Perfect's job situation sounds completely unreasonable, and I do feel for those parents, but maybe they need to lobby for a change in the policy. This is difficult to understand coming from an emergency room (presumably in a hospital). I could understand this attitude coming from a big corporation, but from our health care system. That is just shocking.

I work in a library and you'd be surprised how many moms bring their sick kids into the library. Kids that are coughing, sneezing and snotting all over the place. And they are not shy at all about saying that little Suzy stayed home from school today because she's sick. Well, maybe she should stay HOME and not come to the library either. It's not in her best interest or in mine or the other library patrons. Cat, I'm with you on this one!

Mama Nut said...

I don't think you are the Devil's Advocate at all... and totally not offensive in the least bit!

You're right, a runny nose didn't kill any one... but stronger types of colds can be really bad for children with less than perfect health. A cold for one child can be sever RSV for another. Sammy was born with RSV pneumonia and ever since has had the bronchial version 3 times. When I see kids at the store hacking a lung it makes me so angry. It is heart breaking to have to see your child struggle to breath and on oxygen and I wouldn't wish that on any parent. But it happens, A LOT, because like you said, parents send their kids anyway because they can't get work off.

Maybe I don't show much tolerance, but from what I have had to go through when my Sammy gets sick, I dread every winter hoping we won't find ourselves in the hospital with Sam on Albuterol.

Lori said...

I see both sides here as I used to work outside the home. Now I am a in home medical transcriptionist so it is easy for me to work and keep a sick kid here although when Kenleigh had the swine flu I was scared to even not be in the same room with her, so I just took off that day. Anyways............if my kids coughs or sneezes and doesn't cover their mouth, I have a fit. I don't care where we are, I just start yelling at them right then and there. I couldn't help but get tickled when I read this because of what you see people wearing whether it is cold, hot, etc. Your right, some people just don't have any common sense.

Jill said...

I understand both sides as well. However it has always annoyed me when people bring their sick kids to church. It's a real problem in our area for some reason.

I have a cub scout group, and I tell ya, I get super mad when one of those boys has a NASTY cough! I just want to call their parents and say "Why is he here!!!!?" Oh-well. I guess there are just some out there that don't have common sense or figure that their kid got it from somebody else's kid who went to school sick. What goes around comes around......

Anonymous said...

I work in the church nursery on Sundays. Way too tight quarters for runny noses. We have between 16-20 little ones each week. We sanitize and try to keep everything clean the best that we can. We have the toys and everyone shares them. We can only do so much and the parent has got to help. Two weeks ago a mother brought in a child. She just wanted to held not common for this child. Her face was flushed and she didn't want to eat when snack time came again unusual for this child. I tried to find the mother and she had gone home.

Otter Thomas said...

This is a new problem in my life. I almost never get sick so things like that don't bother me. But now I have a kid and he gets sick and that is no fun. So I echo your sentiments. Please keep all the sick people off the streets.

Tera said...

I'm afraid we can't be friends Mama Nut. In college I wore flip flops to school in the snow on a frequent basis. I am sorry to lose your friendship. :)

As far as kids with illness are concerned, I am going to have to agree with Practically Perfect. I am a stay-at-home mom who loves having my kids home with me. But lets be real, if I kept my kids home every time they had a minor cough or the sniffles, they would not go to school the entire winter.

Fever = stay home, no question
Green boogers = stay home
pink or seeping eye/s = stay home
throwing up = stay home

We need to teach our children etiquette and proper cleanliness habits: cover your mouth when you cough, wash/sanitize your hands frequently, use a tissue for your sniffles, not your sleeve or hand, etc.

I have had to take my kids with me to the grocery store to get prescriptions when my husband was in training (Army) and no one was available to watch my kids for me. And I won't deny for a minute that I took that opportunity to buy much-needed groceries for the next few days, knowing that I would be home-bound for a while.

I had one incident when my daughter was not sick at all. We were at the store and my daughter got a tickle in her throat. As I was trying to find a drinking fountain to help her ease her incessant coughing, I had several women give me the evil eye, and one woman came over and gave me a piece of her mind about keeping sick kids at home. My poor daughter was mortified.

Let's be less quick to judge others.

Mama Nut said...

Haha, Tera, I just love you! We can always be friends, even if you did wear flip-flops in the snow... lol.

I know what you mean about taking sick kids to the store because you can't get a sitter, or the hubby is gone. I love the parking spaces some stores have by the pharmacy for parents with sick kids... I think Walmart has some.

There are exceptions for everything. And I really try not to be judgmental, but I get angry when kids (and adults) don't take precautions and cough all over people. I admit I hate it when people judge me and I shouldn't do it to others, but when my children's health is at stake, their welfare comes first.

Guilty Mother said...

Hey Cat, bugs are the bane of all us mothers. My two have both had the most hideous of bugs, vomiting and exploding bottoms. Whilst I kept them home (which in itself is bedlum even when they are too poorly to move much) it was difficult. It's a fine line and I think parents need to be responsible and create a good balance. It's also about educating your children so that they always use tissues and cover their mouths if they have a simple cold. Fevers, vomiting, runny bots, thick green noses should always stay home but I guess getting bugs is also part of aiding our immune system to develop even more resistance. So whilst I abhor them, I must accept them. I still have no idea where Lucy and Billy collected their virus but two weeks on and they're through it now. Now poor old daddy has to take care of mummy :)

Meagan and John said...

I just want to point out that last year I kept my son home when he had green runny nose and wasn't feeling well and 3 months into school I got the nastiest of nasty phone calls demanding that my son misses anymore days that they will send the truancy police out to get us and that he could be kicked out of school because it was bringing down their attendance, they also went on to explain that unless he had a fever or was vomiting I was expected to bring him no matter what.

My son is also a very sickly child, he has horrible allergies, bad ears which cause constant ear infections, and a heart murmur so if he gets a fever he turns blue and his eyes roll into the back of his head as he has fever induced seizures and so I tried to do the right thing and because of it we got in serious trouble.

I realize your concern, but I also want to say that if you are so concerned about them coming into contact with sick kiddos you might just need to keep them at home because it is easier to keep a healthy kids away from sick people then it is to keep sick people away from healthy people. Most people are contagious before they even have symptoms or know that they are sick and the damage is usually done. life sucks sometimes.

I see both sides specially since I watch a bunch of toddlers and anytime one of them gets sicks everyone is sick and trust me we have had a lot of sickness, but I also realize that a lot of jobs do have extremely strict policies (you would think hospitals know better, but a hospital can't work without it staff and if they are always gone sick that is an issue) as a flight attendant if we missed for than 3 days in a certain period of time we would be suspended. It is a sad world, but that is just the way it is.

As I see it though, they are eventually going to come in contact with the germ, better they get it while they are young so that when they are older than can have stronger immunities

oh, and because of my son's allergies and constant ear infections, he always has green nasty boogers, but from what I have been told, unless your child is licking my son's nasty green boogers he is not going to get sick from them, if we kept him home just cause he has green nasty boogers he wouldn't be able to go anywhere--